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July 13, 2009

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Sal DeRosalia

So... As someone who follows MMA very closely, as someone who trains MMA and as someone who truly loves the sport, I AGREE with you 100%!!! Was I rooting for Brock? NO. Was I hoping that a mixed martial artist would beat him and put him in his place, YES. It didn't happen the way Frank Mir or I would have liked but at the same time that was not what I was the most upset about. I understand wanting credit from the world. I understand wanting to avenge a loss. I understand Brock wanting to prove his point but I DO NOT understand why he choose to act a fool AGAIN. I work in press and marketing and most times any press is good press but not in this case. The press that you talk about the UFC receiving post UFC 100 is BAD PRESS and it will hurt the UFC in the long run. It will allow the haters to continue to invalidate the sport we know and love. I hope that we MMA lovers will continue to put our best foot forward even when some of us are only thinking of number 1... MMA is bigger then any fighter, owner, promotion company or piece of bad press.

derrick

Ms MMAHotStuff
I totally agree with what you've said. And now that you mention it, Nacho Libre is hilarious. That's what I'm going to refer to as going forward. And I also agree either Shane or Cain could take him. He is a douche bag.

JB

There are two stories coming out of UFC 100: Brock Lesnar talking trash after the fight and Dan Henderson knowingly admitting that he hit Michael Bisping despite knowing that he was unconscious to "shut him up a bit."

I find it troubling that nobody is talking about Dan Henderson, despite the fact that Hendo's actions could do FAR more damage to the future of mixed martial arts than what Lesnar did. Lesnar's actions may have turned off hardcore fans, but Henderson's flying punch could have done FAR worse damage; imagine swing voters in New York seeing that punch and deciding that perhaps legalizing mixed martial arts in New York isn't such a great idea after all?

I mean, I understand why Lesnar is being vilified. He comes from the WWE, so that automatically makes him bad for the sport. Let's overlook his NCAA heavyweight championship for a moment, because that would mean that Lesnar has the same background as people like Josh Koscheck and we can't have that. He was in WWE, which means he's a faker and a bad fighter, despite the fact that he trains his ass off just like everyone else in this sport.

So basically, what you want is for people to pretend like they hate each other in order to build up a fight, and then make up with each other and reveal it was fake all along and that they were working you to build a fight (like BJ Penn and Sean Sherk)? You'd rather have that than the kind of real, intense dislike that Brock Lesnar has for Frank Mir (who did 95% of the trash talking before the fight, it must be noted)?

pdiddy

Brock is good, but he's not "that good", he's just "good enough". He's got enough of a wrestling base, and enough practice hitting sparring partners to use that skill to beat a less physically gifted opponent. And by physically gifted I mean "smaller". The reality is that Brock will never develop skills that make him a great tactician because he doesn't need to. All the jiu jitsu in the world can't help you move a guy that outweighs you by 40 pounds and knows how to use that weight. Frank Mir's boxing and jiu jitsu are light years ahead of Lesnar's, but Lesnar's size wins out. It's not his fault he's so big, it's just his fault that he acts like such a douchebag after the fight. I would think for someone characterized to be such a competitor, that eventually he'd get tired of winning simply because he's bigger than everyone else. Doesn't take much skill or practice to be the larger fighter. Congrats Brock, you win by default.

bford

Congrats Brock.. you won because you beat the crap out of Frank Mir.. doesn't matter if people like him or not... he destroyed Frank.. he was able to take him down.. EASILY....Frank didn't come close to stopping him.. well since he is so big, he has to be slow.. right? Wrong... he has great athletic ability for any size.. he is so quick and explosive that Mr. Mir had no chance to stuff his takedown attempts. He's a guy who was the last cut made by the Vikings after not having played football for years.

I remember Frank hoping that Brock would take him down, because that is where he could submit him and turn the tables..

the problem for Frank isn't that Brock is just bigger.. it is that he is super strong even for his size.

Carwin is the best chance for a win.. Velasquez has a ways to go... still.. I don't think Carwin is going to beat Brock.. but I really want to see the fight.

This isn't a setback or lasting blow to the UFC or mma.. both will continue to grow and be fine.. no matter who the HW champ is.

Chris

I totally agree. I think Dana White needs to kick his minnestoan butt out and never let him fight again. He is turning it into something that it is not. I love it when guys are able to get HELL beat out of them and be good sports, but his performance was exactly was Yahoo! said, a circus. While you may be right about Shane and Cain, I still would like to see Fedor armbar the eff outta him.
-Chris

Fenriq

This isn't so scathing as it is spot-on. Lesnar is an ass who has no concept of honorable combat, respect for your opponent and grace in victory and defeat.

I don't know about Carwin's chances against Lesnar but I am pretty confident that Fedor would either knock him out or make him tap out. And yes, I will buy the PPV to watch it happen.

Klemiro

Beating the two top guys in the buisness is not that big a task is it. And he can't be a good fighter just because he keeps Mir on the ground, it's not like its a hard task doing that. And the size is just something that comes natural, he doesn't have to train to be that big. Brock is just born that size, and with that quickness. I bet he just sits in front of the tv and drink bud.

And I totaly agree about this beeing the wrong kind of attention. We don't want mma to be rekognised as entertainment and show. Its much better to keep the fokus on the voilent sport stamp.

So I totaly agree. Brocks just lucky he's big, and UFC shouldn't get the mainstream attention. Actually we should ban all punches and kicks and go pure bjj, thats what will sell PPVs in the long run, not media attention.

JB

For those that think Brock displayed no skill on the ground, watch this video as master BJJ technician explains how Brock nullified Frank Mir's half guard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDmNMisXQc

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